Hindsight is 20/30

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Obviously dredge gets a lot better, Wow, a lot of good rares in MED3. It will be kind of bizarre (hahaha I made a pun) to see this card selling for 3-5 tix. 

Any thoughts about this card being restricted due to warping the metagame?

Uba Stax! Here we come! :D

Dredge is a deck that if it gets too powerful can be hated on til the cows come home - no reason to restrict it.  However, will it reduce the number of viable decklists out there?  Yes.

I was expecting Mana Drain and Land Tax in MED3 but Bazaar of Baghdad is a totally different ball game as you say Danger this is going to make the contents of MED 4 very exciting indeed.

To see the Mox's and Lotus online would bring a tear to my eye as I still regret selling my paper Lotus to this day. I cant wait till Monday to see whats in Beta. 

Originally posted by wickedrh As a dedicated dredge player this made me feel thing that are not appropriate to say on forums. :D Also don't forget that if BoB isn't restricted we can run 4LED 4BoB How much do you guys think these will go for? Just when I thought this was the time to get a playset of FoWs paying 20-30 tix for a played of BoB will put me back for atleast 2 months.

Bazaar might actually be enough to finally push LED into restricted land.

Does Wizards know what they are doing here? Look at vintage, people have to devote 8 SB cards to beating this deck and sometimes even that is not enough. In vintage combo decks can try to race dredge, but it's much harder in classic. So my conclusion is that dredge will be even more dominating than in vintage which seems like a bad thing.

Time to stock up on Leylines and Tormod's.

Dredge is very easily hated on by absolutely everyone b/c some of the best hate is artifact. This fact makes me think that BoB is not going to be as warping as we might initially think. It makes dredge MUCH better, but that deck wins pretty much all game 1's anyway. And BoB will give the average deck 1-2 less turns to find their hate...but I don't see it really overpowering the Metagame unless people are unprepared. Dredge will always be a glass cannon, its just a much better one now. 

Originally posted by Cownose Also, I cant imagine them giving us Drain and BoB but not workshop--since they are the 3 pillars of deck building.

Originally posted by Juan007 Dredge is not hated out as easily as you claim. Everyone runs 8x SB cards in vintage to deal with dredge, yet dredge still wins sometimes. Basically Bazaar in MED3 means that we all have 7 card sideboards instead of 15. And BTW, Shop and Drain are absolutely no threat to Dredge. ANT is a much better choice because it actually has a chance at winning the race. Turn 1 Su-Chi or sitting on Drain isn't going to get the job done.

Dredge will certainly be something to think about, but really, with recurring wastes/strips and Bazaar around, maindecking some gy hate provides answers to enough decks out there, that it seems like a good move.

Great card, excited to have it online, but I'm really not afraid of what it's going to do to the meta at all.  Seems like a healthy addition.

With fewer GY abusing decks, maindeck GY hate seems bad, and risks prison warping the format.  You'd be maindecking answers to 1 deck.  With Bazaar, GY hate becomes maindeck worthy against more than 1 deck type.

I wonder if Relic is actually the best card to maindeck... I mean... at worst it is a cantrip...